Avan; 6. i wish kongu nadu in feature it should be in the tamil politic and national politics.we need to have our kongu nadu people stateral minister,for not only benifit for our community and also for the whole benifit of kongu nadu region i.e western tamil nadu ,people from other community also vote for the devolpment for kongu nadu ,even without our goverment full help we are all kongu nadu people come this far(2/3 economy to tamil nadu from region)even with help goverment , so we the people can reach great height &more more prosporus life vote for KNMP .if they come we can attain full devolpment in this region(i.e front runner in well devolped region in india,in that time we were example to others(rest of india even for world)in devolpment )we can we will in the state election to win atleast 50 assembly seatswe can we willuse this base vote (i.e6.5 lacs)make more people aware of the party in our regionstart kongu tv to make awarenessif we had shown feb 15 meeting in tv we had win atleast 4-5 seatsmake awareness avilable to all people as quick as possible before state election ,we need change our defect to massive win in state election so everbody need to work hard take to more peoplewe were baby in the mp election,we need show our kongu region strenthWE CAN WE WILL, Kavi,You are young, you are a software professional, you live in the Internet era where even national boundaries are meaningless - why do you want spend time on caste based politics ?? . See in the north and west of India where land lords have donated huge lands for educational institutions and developed very good infrastructure, produced leaders and scientists and created name for regions. And Brahmins though outwardly not vociferous in showing casteist tendencies, do practice soft-racism in workplace, temples and religious institutions**/Every community faced the usual problem.. the dalits of one region are the masters of another region.. (Eg: in ariyalur district, the paraiyars are dominant community)But to attribute everything to brahmins is completely wrong..The problems faced by dalit is nothing compared to what brahmins faced because of dravidian racists.. The famous Jagannath temple at Puri was build by this vansha. we paid for all with our hard earned money, and many times with borrowed money. They do not represent the views or opinions of newindianexpress.com or its staff, nor do they represent the views or opinions of The New Indian Express Group, or any entity of, or affiliated with, The New Indian Express Group. iv) Fantastic Perking facility for all vehicles v) LCD/TV arrangements to comfortably view the function from long distance. actually, wat i commented was d facts.. try 2 accept it & pls don't comment others if you cannot digest it. i dont know why people are always trying to stamp knmp as caste based party..tell me any party which does not support casteism in politics..among them which we choose our candidates as our choice..pmk is different from knmp..there the leaders become richer and the followers become poorer..but the leaders of our knmp are top class businessmen,engineers,agriculturist..if they have spend the time in their occupation instead of working for the peravai and party they would have earned many crores.. some of our candidates are social activitists even before starting the party..our party has been struggling for farmers problems like toddy tapping,land pollution,water problelm,water pollution etc..long standing problems in kongu region1.doubling of railway line b/w irugur and cbe2.train route connecting salem and karur through namakkal3.except erode bus stand other bus stands in kongu area does not have the capacity to handle the traffic4.refridge stations for agricultural products5.toddy tapping6.sugarcane price7.the conditions of roads even nhs are also very bad8.drinking water problem9.no new government educational institutions in the past 30 yearslike these there are so much of problems in kongu area..you are asking the people to think before voting.. if all the people think before voting india will be a developed country..all the parties think that they can win the seat by fielding a gounder or vanniyar or naidu according to the majority caste..for example we are going to vote for a gounder who belongs to a dravidian party. It is not correct to compare our KV peravai people with ordinary politicians.I fully agree with Mr. Rajkumar's statement.What matters Mr. Eagle to curse KVs. Someone like thooran should write the history of our caste(unbiased!). [19] Scholar and historian M. Raghava Iyengar identifies the Kalabhras with the Kalappalar section of the Vellalar and equates king Achyuta Vikranta with Achyuta Kalappala the father of Meykandar. /** This is the same world which has both Internet and Taliban together**/what's relation b/w taliban & internet.. totally unrelated comparison..The taliban are using internet more than us../** To keep it simple - I dont want to argue on the Muslims angle and Europeans angle ..and how good or bad we were in the past .**/If you dont want to argue on muslim angle or european angle, the better leave everything else also..As i said earlier, the issue has to be discussed only on relative comparison, and NOT in isolation../** The current reality is -1.Dalits are dominated by OBC/MBC's2. As late as 1930-1940's the Nairs of Kerala used to exploited their women workers by asking them to work topless**/First, the zamindar system is NOT part of caste system..Second, the zamindari and landlord concept was first introduced by muslim kings and rather exploited by britishers..Thirdly, the fact some of the landlords made women to work topless is NOT attributed to caste system or untouchability in general.. its a localised incident, that occured because there is no native king to regulate.. /** I alluded the story of "throwing out of train .." to remind the struggle of Mahatma Gandhi - This particular incident spurred Gandhi to fight against the imperialism and dominance of Whites .Probably if he and/or other social reformers have not fought for the fundamental rights may be our/your situation today will be like that (Dominated by a upper caste/religion/race person)**/The incident of gandhi occured in southafrica, thrown out by white britishers.. such racism prevailed only in europe, and NOT in india..The concept of higher caste and lower caste is a european one, where nobles exploited the serfs..In india, there is no such higher caste or lower caste.. the so called higher caste brahmins in india lived a disciplined life, with lot of restrictions, without any political power..There is no concept of higher or lower.. there was both upward and downward mobility of castes in india..So, dont confuse the european system with indian one.. this is the mistake that most of the indians do, because of academic propoganda.. both are entirely different..Btw, have you read dharampal's books?visit www.dharampal.net. Among the many other meanings the word "Kongu" has, the most acceptable ones are "honey" and "dense forest". Age, Height : 26 Yrs, 5 Ft 2 In . You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. Imagine while travelling back home you are thrown out from your railway compartment by a Brahmin/North Indian - saying your caste/colour as the reason .**/So periyarists throwing away brahmins is not an issue..Btw, as far as i have known, no brahmins had thrown dalits out.. its only the OBC and BC's who could have done that..YOu claim to oppose racism.. but showing so much of anti-brahminism in your comments.. what kind of stand it is? You seem to be very informed, but why bring your fight here. Imagine while travelling back home you are thrown out from your railway compartment by a Brahmin/North Indian - saying your caste/colour as the reason .You should be thankful for leaders like Gandhiji, EVR that such a situation does not exist in India today ..Its easy to criticize them - but it is difficult to understand what they said, leave alone following it. This vansha also has its own calender. Confirmed - both KNMP and KNIP - A BIG ZERO. Tamil. They also started questioning the authority of Vellalars. They also exchanged these produce for rice from marginal settled farmers. It is our only identity.Long live Great Tamil.**/Prabha.. vi) good commando force(Youth Team) with walkie talkie. Help us delete comments that do not follow these guidelines. By power hungry zealots. 12: G.O (MS) No. [14][15] Though the Vellalar have generally been associated with the landed gentry and agriculture, they are not a homogenous group and various people from diverse backgrounds have identified themselves as a Vellalar in the course of history. Careers, Home | Nation | World | Cities | Business | Columns | Entertainment | Sport | Magazine | The Sunday Standard, Now we are on Telegram too. Search Safe & Secured Kongu Vellala bride & groom Matrimonial profiles with exclusive privacy. HAI!!!!!!!!!!!! If you want to make it good, you do it. [19] Then he and the barber sing a long song composed by poet-saint Kambar, called "Mangala Valthu", speaking of the glory of marriage. [e], The Irungovels are considered to be of the same stock as the Hoysalas as in one of the Sangam poems, the ancestor of the Irungovel chieftain is said to have ruled the fortified city of Tuvarai. After the end of the Sangam period, the Vettuvar (hunter) tribe gained dominance over the other tribes of the region such as the Kurumbar, Ay, and Kuravar, which led to a large number of peoples associating themselves with the Vettuvar. [59]They were more orthodox than the Brahmins in their religious practices. hi allevery one said only good things abt this communitybut from my point of viewgounders love their land more than peopleand gounder people are also fsmous for untouchability(treating lower caste people very badly)and no one speaks abt it. Your views border almost on extreme right-wing. I'm sure the party mgmt would be doing this. Learn from the fate of PMK. While examining the recommendation, the SC/ST Commission would associate with expert individuals, organizations and institutions in the fields of anthropology, ethnography and other social sciences and Anthropological Survey of India. . keep trying to enlighten us more. Even going by a conservative estimate, Gounders should have roughly 40 lakh votes in the state, feel poll observers. Let us give a wide publicity among our Kongu Lions and their families. It is very nice to know the history of kongu vellala gounder community.This information is very useful for future generation.Thanks. If you think you are superior in one place in other place you are inferior.Education doesn't seem to make any difference in eradicating the social menace. All rights reserved. Education: Masters - Engineering . I think if that is the aim of KNMP, then it will be an alternative to others. But have we organized ourselves locally? The units were generally named after the king like Rajaraja-terinda-valangai-velaikkarar, that is the known (terinda) forces of king Rajaraja Chola I. [19], The Kongu Vellalar were classified as a Forward Caste (General class) at the time of Indian independence but they successfully requested to be reclassified as an other Backward Class in 1975. People belonging to the same Kulam/Kootam usually will not intermarry. Since the KNMP bosses are rich and other castes earn their livlihood from them, there will be direct or indirect attempts to stop them from voting, especially in the rural areas. Tamil Kongu-vellala-gounder Matrimony - Find lakhs of Tamil speaking Kongu-vellala-gounder Matrimonial Brides & Grooms on Matrimony.com, the most trusted matrimonial website for happy marriages. The Gounders are the dominant caste in the western region of Tamil Nadu. Vellalar is a generic Tamil term used primarily to refer to various castes who traditionally pursued agriculture as a profession in the Indian states of Tamil Nadu, Kerala and northeastern parts of Sri Lanka. [21] In Pali language as in Tamil, the word Kalamba or Kalambam (in Tamil) means the Kadamba tree, the sacred totemic symbol that is associated with Tamil god Murugan. Dear Eagle, we all can positively build the region. ulagukke unavu tharum unnatha thozhil nam vivasayam.. this blog is really great to know about our prestigious caste.. let we all join hand to rule the world.. all the best to all my relatives in this world. mr.velumani kongu lion.. i really appreciate ur words and ur sincerety towards ur kongu community. Period. Please convey my best wishes. This vansha was named after Raja Gangeya. There is soft-racism by Brahmins.**/3. [58], The Vellalar were considered to be of high status and enjoyed a high rank during the Chola period. !The lack of social awareness in our region is the cause of problems. This region supports the Tamil Nadu state from economic collapse and single handedly manages its fame. Religion / Caste. Mudaliars, Pillais and Gounders have a common ancestry which many people are not aware of. ?Dear Rajkumar, you know about pangali sandaiLet us come together socially as one unit at each level and for that we don't need any KNMP or any other party. Name Email. Kongu Vellalars( including Vellala Gounder, Nattu Gounder, Narambukkatti Gounder, Tirumudi Vellalar, Thondu Vellalar, Pala Gounder, Poosari, Gounder, Anuppa Vellala Gounder, Kurumba Gounder, Padaithalai Gounder, Chendalai Gounder, Pavalankatti Vellala Gounder, Pallavellala GounderSanku,Vellala Gounder,and Rathinagiri Gounder). . Only very few people may be like that. Kuyilan; 14. Gounder is a title used by various communities in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu. What have these educationists and industrialists done other than giving fat donations to our political parties from which they have alone benefitted.Walk through the region, you will see people and their suffering.. Why do you talk about gounders, nadars, chettiars etc and go back to the history of humiliation and inhuman practices?why do our farmers sell farm land to real estate owners? mr sivakumar nowhere in the election manifesto knmp has sought the removal of pcr.. Home | Search | Register . (The fact that Article 17 is not 100% enforced and there are people clamoring for the removal/amendment to PCR act is a different matter).2. Mother Tongue. , -- , , - , - - . . Looking to create a Kongu stronghold The link by Hindu Site states that Kongu were Forward Caste. Last Updated: 05th December 2020 03:56 AM my name is velumani hailing from a respectable agricultural kongu vellala family. . Mahendra-Medara: 83. The author of this blog, himself a Gounder belongs to the Elumathur Panangadai clan, seeks to venture at the various facets of the inseperable Gounder and Kongu histories. For example Singanallur only got 13000 odd votes but Palladam got about 45000 votes. Here is where God or eternal order intervenes. Follow us for updates, Four in five professionals in India considering job change in 2023, FIR against Nawab Malik's son, daughter-in-law forallegedlyusing fake documents in visa application, Delhi-Centre services row:AAP govt seeks clear demarcation of power, SC reserves verdict, BSF seizes Chinese weapons dropped by Pakistan drone 8 km inside Indian territory in Punjab. KERALA 01 GOUNDER KONGU VELLALA 01053 KERALA 01 GOUNDER MENON 01054 KERALA 01 GOUNDER PADAIYACHI 01055 KERALA 01 GOUNDER PILLAI 01056 KERALA 01 GOUNDER VANIAR 01057 . 1 0 obj <>>>>> endobj 2 0 obj <> endobj 3 0 obj <> endobj 4 0 obj <> endobj 5 0 obj <> endobj 6 0 obj <> endobj 7 0 obj <>stream [a] The Vellalar are members of several endogamous[b][c][d] castes such as the numerically strong Arunattu Vellalar, Chozhia Vellalar, Karkarthar Vellalar, Kongu Vellalar, Thuluva Vellalar and Sri Lankan Vellalar. Do you think the other regions of Tamilnadu have no problems? EMULATE SUCCESS LOKE TIRUPUR PEOPLE. Dont use the word caste.You said about Ganga dynasty. [f] The Tamil Jains refer to the Saiva Velaalar as nr-pci-nayinrs or nr-pci-vellalars meaning the vellalars who left Jainism by smearing the sacred ash or (tiru)-nru. Don't forget to include your gorgeous images as well. [8], The Kongu Vellalar were inhabitants of the Kongu country since at least the 10th century CE. **/Good comedy.. first read about religions, and then read about history.. before that, first open up your mind for alternate views.. Can i quote some most harshest lines from other religions? Caste code list REDS 2006 state stateid Caste Subcaste castecode KERALA 01 ACHARI KONGU VELLALA 01001 KERALA 01 ACHARI VISHWAKARMA 01002 . After seeing the results, let us discuss again. **/Please try to quote with substantiation.. what is ur email id head?are u living in pollachi or where? Thus some groups of the Vettuvars became full-time agriculturalists, calling themselves Vettuvavelalar. The Tamil word Kootam is used to denote a clan People belonging to the same kootam usually will not inter-marry. Thevars have 30/38 MLAs and 4 ministers with strategic portfolios, Vanniars have 50/60 MLAs with 3 strategic ministeries in their respective areas. after winning he has to obey his/her leaders command who is also a caste based person.. so we directly vote for ourselves..you can say we are threatening the sc people to vote for us..but what about the christians and muslims who joins us..the number may be small but it is changing in tamil nadu politics..not only them but nadars,navidhars and various communities are supporting us as they are bound with us and they want a change in the region..again i am saying that dont tell that we are like hitler because we dont compel any body to vote for us but we request them, Dear Rajkumar,I do understand that our region has some problems. [54], Even though at present, the term Vellalar has come to mean a farmer or agricultural people, a number of non-cultivating landholding castes like Kaarukaatha Velaalar and the Kondaikatti Velaalar who served ruling dynasties in various capacities also identify themselves as Vellalar. If any one from our community can help me in finding out it will be of an great help not only to me but also to our community. Caste: Kongu Vellala Gounder/Kannan : Annual Income: Rs.400000 : Register Free to contact her : Name: P.sindhu manjari [GK6768] View Full Profile . I alluded the story of "throwing out of train .." to remind the struggle of Mahatma Gandhi - This particular incident spurred Gandhi to fight against the imperialism and dominance of Whites .Probably if he and/or other social reformers have not fought for the fundamental rights may be our/your situation today will be like that (Dominated by a upper caste/religion/race person)4. On American Slavery and untoucability - American slavery is 100% abolished now. - lr (USA), Good work. [3], "Tamil Nadu / Coimbatore News: Kongu Vellala Gounders launch party", "Tamil Nadu / Coimbatore News: Looking to create a Kongu stronghold", Website of Kongu Vellala Goundergal Peravai organisations, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kongu_Vellala_Goundergal_Peravai&oldid=1075952697, This page was last edited on 8 March 2022, at 15:11. The very step is to enter all the information such as your name, date of birth, marital status, religion, caste, sub-caste, mother tongue, contact number, mail id, height, weight and color. These Nadus are arranged in 4 groups of 6 villages each headquartered at Palayakottai, Kangayam, Pudur and Kadayur. after winning the elections with congress votes, he is asking for ministerial berths to his family members only expose such a party among people!Dear Eagle, be sensible.. there is no need to mock at anybody. Kongu Matrimony Kongu Vellala Gounder Matrimonial portal. Castes which used the title Vellala or Vellalar The main food products were cow milk and dry crops like Aariyam (Varaku or Ragi), Kambu, Cholam and Tinai. (Sample Study) . Without caste, there would not be a culture called hinduism.. without caste india would have perished like persia..If you still want to stick to your blind arguments, please be it.. but dont mock at others who support caste.. otherwise, you will be worst intellectual oppressor here..If you want to discuss anything, please be factual.. RightAngle - you are a twisted angleShame on you for saying that you are a software engg. Expected reaction - ha ha .Guess my prediction was spot on you people are able to retain deposit in four constituencies and lost in the remaining. One theory derives it from the Tamil word Kaamindan, meaning "noble protector of the country", later modified as Kavundan or . We have polled more than 1 lakh cotes in 4 core constituencies. Yes, KNMP should be a party of all castes and communities in Kongu region. Hi All,It seems,atleast now some good things are happenings in tamilnadu. On the day of the wedding, the groom is shaven, and a karumaikkarari pours water on his head. Kanavalan; 10. kadai; 11. However, the government's position has been that inclusion or classification of castes in any list is solely the work of the Backward Classes Commission. /** You are comfortable because of the hardwork of the people like him If not for him, Anna and Kalaignar we all (meaning all non-brahmins) will be doing the menial jobs and the Brahmins will be ruling the roost **/What are the menial jobs that you are mentioning.. and how those jobs appear as menial..IF not for periyar, i would be doing agriculture.. do you think it as menial?OR do you think labour work as menial?How do you build your house? 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